Will students at uber-Chritstian universities have this? 6:910; 1 Cor. Actuallythe standards for Brigham Young University are slightly off. And was to that if I wear modest clothing my tattoos should not be a problem. Cedarville goes far beyond regulations mandated in the DFSC Act by attempting to regulate the daily lives of their students whether on or off campus. and the campus is primarily pro-life, yes. D.A. Your argument is no better than saying something is right because its in Mein Kampf or saying that Western values are wrong because they upset Osama bin Laden so much he destroyed some buildings. 251 N. Main St. Cedarville, OH 45314 USA 1-800-CEDARVILLE (233-2784) 1-937-766-7700. for the Word of God and the Testimony of Jesus Christ. He transferred to public school where he had no friends and even less support and encouragement from faculty/students, and two months later he shot himself. This rule is just so that, again, we dont have students doing the dirty on campus. And we can definitely dance. McKendree. If you honestly think that the way these colleges are conducting themselves and imposing religion upon students is a good thing, well then I dont know. It is for our own health and safety that these rules are in place: rules which we WILLINGLY submit to. Movies again, the handbook gave the wrong message. I have visited Pensacola Christian College many times and am planning to go there this fall. There are always going to be kids that break rules.i went to parties were kids were drinking alcohol. Folk dancing? go to freethoughtpedia and look up PCC and read the review of a former student. Feel free to email me at [emailprotected]. Evansville, IN Deaconess Sports Park. Honestly, this is lazy journalism. Often parents make that choice, not the students. Certainly they are more strict and arbitrary in their rules than some of the schools here. 5:18; 1 Tim. If, however, you only ensure that they grow up in an environment where these are banned, this only serves to increase their allure should they ever break free from the strict and dogmatic rules that you place to limit their actions. As discussed in the article on Cedarville's alcohol rules, when you make something illegal, it doesn't stop people who want to do it. All colleges, whether religious or secular, conservative or liberal, have written codes of conduct for their students and faculty. We call our student handbook The Cedarville Experience because it includes many of the guidelines and principles that will shape your time at Cedarville. I attended Asbury for four years, the handbook is terribly written, but the rules are not as strict as they are presented here. Allowing dancing at any school-related function on or off campus is strictly prohibited, though students are allowed to bust a few chaste, pre-approved moves at weddings, military balls, graduation exercises, church, and family occasions provided they refrain from attending clubs, bars, or parties that allegedly lead to temptation no matter what. For any college that you are considering, know before you go. So quit whining about some article some guy wrote on the internet 3 years ago about the strict standards set forth by some colleges and start asking yourself- do these standards actually bring people closer to God or are they pushing us further away? Furthermore, to your own point, most Cedarville students arent even at drinking age, so its not even that big of an issue. Cedarville University is intentional about creating a Christ-centered community, rigorous in our pursuit of scholarship, and balanced in our approach to Christian lifestyle. Emergency personnel respond to a shooting at Michigan State University in East Lansing, Michigan, U.S., February 13, 2023. The best approach is to research the college yourself and make your decsision. Faith College Largo Florida. Then in a moment of disturbingyet not uncommonhypocrisy and contradiction, the next sentence reads, All students are expected to live independently and are responsible for their own personal care. Unless, apparently, you violate a non-Biblically based rule and are expelled from the University. Abuse of alcohol is not consistent with a spiritually mature lifestyle. Above all, we pray God would be honored by our deliberations and actions. They offer many different styles and levels of dance. So even if we (younger generation) are unholy, damned, and reckless WE have the right to be and i am proud to be invoking my first amendment rights, at this moment by stating my very valid oppinion because I CAN. Woah this blog is magnificent i like reading your posts. The big issue that I have is the way the university attempts to control activity while school is not in session and students are at home. Students are not to attend clubs or bars where alcohol is the primary feature and Students are not permitted to attend parties where alcohol is being used in a manner that violates university standards.. And this is coming from someone who was offered a full scholarship to Liberty U and refused (stricter than this article implies-Biology majors beware, as evolution isnt even a theory to them). 2:1317; 1 Pet. But people need to remember that we are fearfully and wonderfully made, and casting people out of a school because they dont meet excessive regulations arent bringing them any closer to God. 3) If God destroyed a city because there were some gay people there, the takeaway shouldnt be that homosexuality is wrong, the takeaway should be that the Old Testament God is an evil monster who at best needs to be disobeyed and at worst needs to be destroyed. Cedarvilles policy on alcohol is simply another notch in the post of treating students like children rather than adults. Minor infractions include borrowing and not attending chapel and group devotions on a regular basis. But people can dance randomly if they want at any time of course as long as youre not grinding your boyfriend or getting down low, youre good. The veritably Orwellian Florida Christian College combs through its students media collections, banning any books, movies, music, magazines, or video games it deems detrimental to Christianity. I cant believe you missed out on Bob Jones U finally lifting their ban on interracial dating JUST ten years ago. Im not talking about breaking these rules, Im talking about snobishly being on the look for anyone that might be breaking these rules and falesly accusing them. Thankfully, Christian colleges provide a better environment than secular campuses. As a Christian university community, Cedarville is concerned about the potential risk to a persons individual well- being and the reality that alcohol use has a significant negative impact on University culture. -Sex (do I really need to explain?) Either way, check your facts before you publish. Wow, imagine that. The articles goal is to make you think some of these colleges are creating robots and the students walk around with bibles in one arm and a notebook in the other. I dont think that students are better off if they attend these schools. Here are two rules that are across the board on campus (that your RA will be giving you more detail about once you arrive on campus) . It will introduce you to our Cedarville Covenant and Community Guidelines, and it will include advice that will help you maximize your success as a university student. It is not unreasonable for them to expect the students attending a Christian college to live up to the standards lai out for them. I always go by the philiosiphy that people dont care how much you know until they know how much you care. So Asbury, Stop preaching with your snobby attitudes and start caring about the people you preach too.you might actually gets Gods message accross that way. An upper classman lied and told the dean that I had looked at a male student in a sexual manner while walking home from chapel and was campused w/in the first weeks there. they as adults need freedom to make own choices. Why all the restrictions regarding dancing? Finally she taught me how to take a hard anal fucking so I would be ready for a fundie husband some day. Youre a different kind of stupid. DANCE We recognize that appropriate styles of dance can be a valuable part of art, worship, choreography, celebration, and exercise. To write that students are fully aware of the rules is a twist of the truth and reality. when they prohibit homosexuality while prohibiting interaction with the opposite sex. I could go on and about more experiences like this during my 2 and a half years at this horrible place. Ten. Raffles are not even allowed as fundraiser due to their association with gambling, which is also banned. They have separated beaches for the men and women. I am a Christian, and I would never dream of doing something like that to someone. An act isnt good because God does it a being can only be God if it only does good acts. There are so many problems with this statement. Carson) does not equate to belief in everything they believe or agreement with any or all of their actions. I can understand dancing in a lewd manner in clubs being prohibited (not really, actually I cant understand most of these being prohibited even when it comes to upholding an image of morality) but what about ballet? Evansville, IN Deaconess Sports Park. PERSONAL CARE AND RESPONSIBILITY All students are expected to live independently and are responsible for their own personal care. If you want to have a Christian school, make it conform to Biblical principles as much as possible. Its not as strict as its portrayed here. I barely made it through a semester. Who is she to judge!? Homosexuality is also wrong,because it upset God to the extent of destroying sodom and gomorah. you know, just as there are Christians who behave badly, there are secular women who have higher standards. Behavior that would cause property damage or directly impedes or disrupts the lawful activity of others. Students are prohibited from posting or sharing sexually provocative material. She did meet some students who were unhappy with Asbury for various reasons, like any students at any college. Some rules are ridiculous. If you are a student at Cedarville, you know that the university resides in the historically dry town of Cedarville, OH. Carson outlines ten items that can be used to determine what constitutes a theologically disputable matterwhich Cedarville claims includes use of alcohol. But do you know which degree is still highly valuable? Amos prophecy describes the restoration of Gods people as involving drinking wine. In accordance with their Mormon faith, students must also refrain from the expected and reasonable discourteous and illegal behavior but coffee, tea, responsible alcohol consumption, and tobacco are also disallowed as well. Your email address will not be published. Maintenance Office. this is what I think of those colleges They can go fuck a buffalo for all I care how dare they dictate your life. It was merely noted that many outside the affiliated fundamentalist organizations may look over their rules and find their jaws dropping. You arent allowed to have your own opinions about anything and creativity and individuality is totally stifled. Welcome to a nation who makes each individual feel entitled to make his own god based on his opinion. Major infractions largely accepted by mainstream society and allowed under American law include dating violation[s], owning potentially offensive media (which will get confiscated), swimming with the opposite sex, patronizing a movie theatre, attending a concert, receiving a tattoo or piercing, gambling, possessing pornography, or purchasing and using tobacco (even when of age). We are no worse off if we do not eat, and no better off if we do. Just like if we do a 270 double front flip on our jet ski, we are no better or worse off. ORU has a dress code which is in effect for classes, chapel and in all academic buildings. Students choose to attend and have full access to handbooks before making that decision. 20:1; Prov. Ive been asked so many times why I kept returning to such an oppressive environment. This article oversimplifies the issue, as well as interprets the motives behind the rule, both of which are misleading. The university itself is also strongly anti-alcohol, arguing that consumption of alcohol is inconsistent with a Biblical lifestyle, even though Jesus drank wine and the Bible is filled with positive references to alcohol. The only wont allow it if you practice satanism (for obvious reasons) or anything with sacrificing, pretty much.) The author of this article did not support, in any way, shape or form, getting drunk. Just food for thought. Additionally, using any source (such as D.A. Shorts, sweatpants, and pajama pants should not be worn to class or chapel. That rule only applies to PUBLIC showings of movies, like if a student run organization wanted to have a movie night on the green for the student body. Save for the dress code and media violations, most of these infractions can lead to disciplinary actions or even outright dismissal from the school. Now of course in the Bible he warns against sins, things that werent made by his own creation, but by the fall of mankind and free will. A long time ago yes, it was a very conservative campus. I went to ORU and two of my children as well. Openly homosexual students are allowed to attend classes, but they must commit themselves to the same standards of staunch chastity as their heterosexual peers. I know that not all Christian colleges and universities are this strict and can be good. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); The Sobering truth of Cedarvilles Archaic Prohibition Rules. But you cant get upset and blame teh school if you enroll and dont check out the requirements first..BYU is a great school.not a fan of mormonism, but the students that are there are great kids for the most part. We are also warned to be careful about what we approve and to seek each others mutual edification. Im very sorry that Pensacola was such a horrible experience for you but keep it to yourself. Perhaps they are harmful. So if the rules dont work for you, dont go there. Theres morality, and then theres this. 1st of all we agree to go to these strict schools. Expressions of dance performed in a manner that honors God and promotes holiness are permitted. The students realize that they will be under strict rule. People have parties all the time. 1 Corinthians 8:8 argues, Food will not commend us to God. I went to the definitely not religious university of Iowa State University years ago. I will be praying for you and I pray that God works in your life and makes you realize that saying nasty words about something is not going to take away the scars of what someone did to you, or the anger that results from it. Dyed hair and faddish or extreme styles are out, as are any piercings beyond the ears or a nose stud presumably allowed for cultural reasons. ALCOHOL AND ILLEGAL AND HARMFUL SUBSTANCES The Bible contains many warnings on the use of alcohol and teaches the need for caution. I chose to attend Pensacola Christian College, nobody forced me. http://www.pcci.edu/ Again, how many die every year from alcohol and tobacco? I am currently attending Liberty, and the rules are so laid back at least half the student body goes out late night and weekends gets messed up, and gets it with someone, theres plenty of ways around the rules, school is pretty fake. The Catholic Church, for example If you think that sheltering yourself in colleges such as these is a good way to prepare for the world, then youre absolutely wrong. Instagram. both in this life and in the next. I went to Asbury and had no issues. Cedarvilles policy on alcohol is not founded in fact, policy, or Biblical principle. Like, in this example, students deciding its very unlikely that Oral Roberts raised the dead during his ministry, which would make their college named after a liar. Students are allowed in each others hall lobbies at any time during the week until midnight, and students of the opposite sex are allowed in each others rooms on Fridays, again until midnight. If the truth is found in the Bible, abide in it, and depart not from it. If a student applies and is admitted to one of the educational institutions it is safe to assume that theyve read and have agreed to the guidelines. Convocation was not that big of a dealit was actually pretty cool. Students are not allowed to use, purchase, share, or possess alcoholic beverages, tobacco products, or any illegal drug on or off campus. -Pornography duh. "Each program at Cedarville University comes from a biblical world view. My marriage has lasted almost 11 years so far, I have no illegitimate children and I have never been an embarrassment to my husband. To offer a different perspective, I graduated from Asbury in the 90s, lived by the rules, and benefited from being part of a voluntary community that generally did the samenot out of fear or self-righteousness, but because of the high value they placed on faith and community. Seems irrelevant to me. Your email address will not be published. Sickening!!! They are private institutions and can set their own policies. The only Biblical justification provided in the handbook is that it is listed as a disputable matter by Paul, which we will get into later. Oddly left out are West Point Academy, Air Force Academy and other military schools. In addition, our campus culture supports the professional development of students and allows faculty to communicate additional dress guidelines for classes that are consistent with the course objectives. Other academic levels are not stringently held to these policies, but they must sign out if they want to return after curfew. Because some might say that the strict rules only serve to lead people away. Sex that is forbidden and secretive just makes it all the more exciting. The only strict rule they have is drinking and they wont kick you out if they find out you drank. Proverbs 29:22 may be a helpful verse in this situation. People can have jobs with alcohol or tobacco. You can view it here. their own standards, and this writer makes fun of them as hopelessly pathetic. Located in Cedarville, Ohio, Cedarville University is a mid-size four year private college offering both undergrad and graduate programs. However, these organizations listed in this article are forcing students to live by ridiculously strict rules and I dont see how anyone can think this is the right way to live. However, as a Cedarville student, you represent the University. Stay up the great paintings! The bible is the guideline to these rules. This Florida institution takes its honor court very, very seriously going so far as to issue demerits for a number of completely legal offenses. Some may seem that way to those who dont adhere to a particular faith. In addition, attendance at parties, clubs, casinos, restaurants, and bars is expressly prohibited except when no alcohol is present. No they really dont. Students are also prohibited from recreational drug use, misusing legally prescribed medications, or using synthetic street drugs or medical marijuana. Alcohol and tobacco are forbidden even for those of age for purchase and consumption, and media intake is restricted to whatever the faculty and staff deems inoffensive. Forgery, providing incomplete or misleading information, scanning and not attending chapel, or misuse of your student ID card are examples of dishonesty that will result in discipline. All serious and dastardly crimes against the institution. We hope you continue to read and criticize our articles. Any interaction with alcohol, innocent or not, may result in dismissal. So next time you see a bud light in a gas stationrun for your life. I went to a Catholic University in Los Angeles and they do not have rules like that sothere. Cedarvilles prohibition of alcohol simply diversifies students tactics to engage in the habits they will inevitably choose to form. After dusk, mixed groups are not allowed to fraternize without chaperones because having a group of friends including males and females alike is not normal psychosocial behavior it is improper and apparently leads to premarital sex and dancing and other alleged affronts to Jesus. As part of this I had to see the Dean of Men and he told me of a couple who rubbed against each other until bad things happened apparently he was expecting me to admit the same (4) One time in a private setting in a social area for couples to spend time she sat on my lap we were told by a person representing the college this was inappropriate behavior; (5) chapel attendance was required and attendance taken and I believe 2 misses meant disciplinary action (6) guys and girls were not allowed to swim together although I believe this has changed (7) Very little help was provided if you needed help in academics, although one of the college missions is to provide help to those in KY who had inferior high school experiences (6) It was extremely rule oriented it was about following the rules and not about development and transformation as a responsible ethical who loved God and Christ. But its greatly changed now. If anything, its pushing them further away because they feel even more separated from God. Of course, the handbook does too. When you look at little children laughing, or animals playing, or men and women gathering together to talk and experience the presence of others, youre witnessing God at work. They make you go to chapel church services every single day, and some days you have to go to church more than once, the only exception is if you are sick enough to be in the infirmary. Center for Teaching and Learning. They are definitely much more lax now the girls are fine wearing pants (modesty is suggested). If a student is of legal drinking age and wishes to imbibe in the summer, it is none of Cedarvilles business and does not impact them in any way. I would love to have continued healthy dialogue about issues such as these, but in person. Jesus drank wine. That's right, an MBA degree. Reviewed: 9/28/2019. She came from a wonderful Christian church in Atlanta with tremendous faith, knowledge, and ability. Dry Town: Why Cedarville Township exists as one of only hundreds of dry towns in the U.S. 2A) A proper reading of the Sodom story shows that the sin that was committed was inhospitality to strangers Jesus also sites Sodom in this context, 2B) Lots daughters are offered up to the strangers is this an example of morality? The place else may just I am getting that kind of information written in such an ideal manner? The men and women have their own elevators, must not be together in isolated areas, cannot swim together, even at the beach. Wow. right), rather than having anything go and reaping the consequences of debauchery, Look at the corrupt Catholic Church, and look at how many pastors are child molesters. It might be time for a look at the past before blaming a school for your wifes lack of faith Just saying. put a sock in it. Most of the punishment is reserved for any involving impropriety, however. That rule ONLY applies to publicly shown movies. Cedarville's policy on alcohol is simply another notch in the post of treating students like children rather than adults. -Using Profanity, really, it isnt allowed in any K-12 school, and they dont want people cussing their heads off here. and I would rather put up with some questionably strict rules if that meant that I could go on, but. If they have agreed to attend the college, then they have agreed to live by the rules laid out by the college for the duration of their time there. Unfortunately, that will probably never happen for one simple reason: Cedarville is so concerned with their image that they are more willing to treat their students like children than follow actual Biblical principles. The point is, in my opinion, someone needs to establish guidelines for our youth. Articles are submitted and written anonymously in order to protect the identities of students and non-students alike who could face backlash or punishment for expressing their viewpoints that differ in any way from Cedarville University. Just because something is legal, does not make it right, nor does it protect society. Being used to overbearing, micro-managing or fear-based parenting, it is difficult for many kids to realize at that young age that they are actually capable of making their own decisions! And students coloring their hair is definitely not banned.just unnatural colors are like a student couldnt dye their hair green for instance. They cant dance, cant gamble, and cant even lightly use alcohol or tobacco even if of legal age. When so-called Christians give up murder & pork; & they begin smoting doves, I might start believing them. She worked a part time job, attended church, volunteered at a local organization, was on a school team and carried a course load of 15 to 19 hours while maintaining a 3.8 GPA. I transferred to and a public univ and found it to be a great fit for me, realizing that everything along my journey (both good and bad) helped to make me stronger and teach me about life sono regrets. but those who curtail their rights are guilty of stupidities. This was in Roger Rosenblatt in his essay We are Free to Be You, Me, Stupid and Dead. Guys did not have to accept dates with interested women. Submit Maintenance Work Order. I agree that dancing and such is probably a step to far, but the types of people who go to Christian colleges and the like are probably not as bothered by the restrictions you name. And in your rush to condemn schools that ban stuff that the book theyre led by tells them is wrong and sinful, you left out the worse stuff. God created the creativity within human beings. Beards are completely banned without explicit permission from the school, and neither gender may color their hair or wear any form-fitting apparel. If you tell your kids what smoking does to their lungs, they wont even *want* to smoke. Students are also prohibited from recreational drug use, misusing legally prescribed medications, or using synthetic street drugs or medical marijuana. Lets see,,, marry a girl from a christian college who has conducted herself appropriately, has good manners, no baggage, no std`s, is modest and will make a good wife and mother. As one of the top Christian colleges in the Midwest, Cedarville University attracts 5,082 undergraduate , graduate, and dual enrolled high school students to more than 175 areas of study. The difference is, God cares about the first and does not care about the second. Alcohol use can reduce a persons ability to make good decisions about sex and is commonly associated with various forms of sexual immorality, including sexual and physical assault. If your happy with your life, enjoy it your clearly not hurting anyone and therefore absolutely entitled to that choice; and for many that way of life makes people better. Alcohol makes a person less alert and diminishes self-control. Also, Dami, Sodom and Gamorah was only said to be evil because they tried to A) rape two visitor (angels mind you) 2) they were gluttonous in their behavior 3) I am pretty darn sure that a gay man was NOT on the committee for writing the Bible 4) the bible also condemns women for having a period.. (I did study the Bible), strict rules can actually push one from God. For example, can we ever seriously argue that taking jet skis out on a lake or visiting Kings Island are a means of divine sanctification? All of which are traditional dances and (in my opinion) in no way put the dancers morality and purity at risk. Students are expected to remove hats before entering class or chapel. This university has impacted my life in so many ways, and has helped me see just how to integrate my faith and integrity into my career. Required fields are marked *. According to the student handbook, Nearly 70% of our undergraduates are under the legal drinking age. Perhaps they are harmless. Its part of the colleges curriculum, just like a class, due to the college aiming for both academic AND spiritual growth. Rules above and beyond that can get in between us and God, but condoning behavior that goes against His ways is very dangerous. My daughter graduated from Asbury this year. (Aldair Zepeda/WWMT) "To those we lost to those healing," added were the names of the three killed in the shooting, Brian . And of course, students can meet ANYWHERE else on or off campus whenever they want. Regardless of popular opinion, political correctness, or the ideas of major theologians, truth is always truth. I assure you, not all Christian are like that. It should be Students hoping to visit any friends of the opposite sex IN THEIR DORM ROOMS can visit on Fridays. You dont have to get permission from families, no files kept.

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